It is impossible for a person to have anymore, a rational discussion with the Libertarian crowd. It is becoming almost a little bit upsetting trying to talk with these people rationally. Because if you go on YouTube, and there was a great video made about this (http://youtu.be/xYaujnR_8NE), you will see this huge group of cultish followers of the Libertarian philosophy. There was a video that came out recently from a favorite political commentator, Sam Seder, about the YouTube Libertarians (http://youtu.be/0Htf0IgrJrs) and how these people are completley impossible to argue with them.
So, here I am, and I will try and talk rationally. After my last post talking about how Ron Paul is not the God that they all seem to make him out to be, I didn’t get a single smart argument. Instead, it was just angry lambasting from people who didn’t want to discuss things rationally. So here we are, going to give this another shot.
Libertarianism is flawed to its core. Sorry, but that is the truth. That idea that little to no government is going to produce a better society is complete and utter nonsense. One big one that they talk about is no regulation, that the market should take care of itself. There are not enough hands to do enough facepalms for the idea. Yes, if we do nothing, if we free up business’ hands, then things will be better.
First off, let’s take a look at the food industry. A recent report from the CDC said that food-borth pathogens are on the rise here in the US. Why are they on the rise? Because we have a horribly underregulated food industry. We have disease-ridden cattle that we feed to people in this country. We have produce that carries diseases because there aren’t enough regulations, and those that are in place, the FDA and other groups don’t have enough people to look into them. It’s the same with airlines industry. Airline safety is another area that desperatley is underfinanced, and the Libertarians are just fine with looking the other way.
Rand Paul made a statement during an interview with George Stephanopoulos about the BP Gulf spill (forget the Deepwater Horizon BS, this is BP’s spill, just like the last one was called Exxon Valdez) –
And I think it’s part of this sort of blame game society in the sense that it’s always got to be someone’s fault. Instead of the fact that maybe sometimes accidents happen. I mean, we had a mining accident that was very tragic and I’ve met a lot of these miners and their families. They’re very brave people to do a dangerous job. But then we come in and it’s always someone’s fault. Maybe sometimes accidents happen.
You know, if there wasn’t a mountain of evidence as to the fact that the drilling that was going on in the Gulf was horribly underregulated…no, even then he wouldn’t have a point. The problem with the Libertarian ideology is that it believes three things to be true
- That people will be able to keep informed about all markets, and that businesses will never withhold information about those markets.
- That all people are good and want to help everybody else at all times.
- That businesses work for the interests of the community, not for the bottom line.
All three of these things are not only ridiculous, but they are impossible to believe. And when you try to show that the Randian philosophy (Ayn Rand) about free markets is nothing more than a greed-driven mentality designed to help the self is morally repugnant, they all just scream about how you hate their freedom.
This is what TJ Kincaid was talking about in his video. Because the Libertarians have some ideas that people, those who like those ideas will put the other ones, the horribly socially and morallly corrosive ones out of their minds. They will forget about the fact that Ron Paul may not have said that the man should just be left to die, but he did say that there should be no establishment effort to help. He said that the church and the community should step up. But they didn’t! They did not step up! So to tell them that these ideals are wrong, you are just wasting air.
And a lot of their heroes preaching is morally and socially corrosive. Let’s get rid of the FDA, so people can test for E Coli themselves! How about getting rid of the EPA? Yeah, because they’ve never done any good for anybody…except how their regulations got rid of the smog that had infested LA. How about throwing out the Department of Education? Yeah, because inner-city kids are going to be able to afford private schools! Oh wait, they won’t. Or how about getting rid of the income tax! Oh right, then this nation would completely collapse. I keep forgetting that one. Or let’s go all-out and get rid of the entire social safety net! People forget that doing that would be tantamount to murder.
Now, it is easy to point out the flaws of one system, but if you have an established state, of any kind, you need a strict infrastructure to manage it. Anarchy doesn’t work. Anarcho-capitalism doesn’t work. Nature abhors a vacuum, and with human nature, it’s a power vacuum. So, you need an infrastructure that works. And along with that infrastructure, you need people to manage it. You need people to make it work. Now, call it what you want, but a government by any other name is still government. Regulation has been proven to work, and no regulation has been proven to bring things down. The most recent financial collapse was a perfect example. The government wasn’t watching the banks, and they did bad business practices because we also ignored the regulation to make sure they don’t get too big, hence the concept of “Too Big to Fail.”
But Libertarianism is a good thing for one reason – it allows us liberals and progessives to reevaluate why we believe what we believe, and why we will fight so hard to defend it. But with the sudden and massive growth of this group, the question becomes, is it dangerous? Is the ignorance that they display a genuine threat to this nation and its future.
Now that is something worth looking into.